Thursday, January 13, 2011

Welcome to the Philosophical E-Meetings

Hello,
First of all I want to thank you all for keeping the curiosity on these internet e-meetings that we will have from now on.
This will be a student’s “society”, where the whole thing can be discussed, without any restrictions or limitations. This group has the determination to encourage each one of the students to be able to express his accepted wisdom, and his doubts about the world, about existence, about everything that can be able to be questioned.
To start, I think the best in this case, is to lead your first contemplations on these e-meetings, in a way that you start to realize how you should structure your track of thoughts for a dialog of this kind.

Discussion nr 1:
“cogito ergo sum” , which the translation to English would be: “I think, therefore I am”

Suggestion: try to think on this sentence and to understand what in fact the sense of this thought is, and meanwhile try to understand which is the path of thoughts to accomplish such sentence: “I think, therefore I am”.
Everything that you will say or think about it, is accepted inevitably and able to be conversed.
I would like you to say by your own words, what you think about this sentence during this weekend.
 This is just the creation of something much more interesting.
I will stay here on this side waiting for your thoughts.

André Gentil-Homem

9 comments:

  1. I think it's not possible to live in this world without thinking and feeling irrespective of other people. They admire and notice us when we have somethin to say. If we don't, we are kind of invisible. So if I let someone make decisions about my life and think instead of me, in fact I don't have my own life. :)

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  2. I agree with you, Emi. We are living in world which is very demanding. If we want to understand other people, we will think about everything what concern of them. We have to comprehend theier culture, religion, behaviour, sexual orientation, individual speech (I mean gesture, motion), personal opinion; all of it and maybe more. But if you want know it, you must thinking and feeling. Even if you were knew all of it, you would learn the meaning of person continuously. I think that people have very complicated mind and we often don’t know what they are thinking right now. If we do not want to be misunderstand by people we have to try understand them. That is why we have to think all the time. People usually wants to know a lot. But when I think about this questions, I see both sides. We must think because our world is very threatening. We are young people who are getting older and older day by day. Every day brings new challenges. Automatically every challenge allow us to achieve success or to be defeated. World is full of ambushes and lies. If we don’t be cautiously we will be deal with problems. That problems can provided to big changes of our life. I mean for example we could start drink a lot or take a drugs. We can go down. Somebody can take advantage of us.

    In my opinion we HAVE TO think all the time if we would find a way of life. When we are thinking, we will feel that we exist, we understand more. Do it for your balanced life!

    I’m sorry for my mistakes : )

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  3. Hello my treasured students,
    As always your arguments couldn’t be more right. But now, let’s try to recognize why we have to think to exist. What means this? It means that when we are in a comatose state or that when we are sleeping that we don’t exist? Do we have to speak with someone to know that we exist? We don’t have to speak to exist, for instance. Let’s try to understand how we know that we exist, now.
    Keeping on mind “I think, therefore I exist” let’s try to make the question in another way, being the question about how do we know that we exist.

    So my dear students, tell me:

    How do we know that we exist?

    Let me tell you that you are on the good way to solve this problem, you just have to realize, how you know for a fact, that we do exist.

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  5. We don't have to speak and do many other things to exist, we exist because we experience things. We feel them with our senses. Even if we are not aware of it. We can doubt it, but even if we DOUBT, we THINK. And when we think, we exist. Our minds can't exist without our bodies, so when we are sleeping or we are in a coma, it is our SUBCONSCIOUSNESS that works all the time and has influence on our way of thinking (and existing - we are what we think we are).

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  6. First of all, I think, we have to understand what ‘exist’ mean? What about human? If I am thinking about human, I can think about consciousness. I mean that people will exist when they undergo with theier internal processes. And what about people who are seriously ill? They are not conscious. Is it means that they not exist? I do not think so. I am not sure how I should understand ‘exist’. Maybe ‘exist’ means fact, that somebody know that we are? If it is true, fact will be evident- everything what is in the world does exist, because we can see it, touch it, smell it etc. But, for example, flower. Exactly! What about flower? Does flower exist? I can touch, smell, see plants. Flower exists, because has got internal processes, I mean photosynthesis. Flower is developing all the time. But I don’t think so, that flower is thinking. Therefore, Is flower not exist, because not thinking?

    When we are sleeping we exist, because we are submitting to processes inside of us. We are dreaming, so our brain is working.

    What about embryo? Should I believe that fetus is alive because picks up everything from mother what needs to live? I can believe that unborn baby exists, because has a spirit. And because has a internal processes. But can I assert that baby doesn’t exist because doesn’t thinking?

    I’m confused.

    What about ‘ I think, therefore I exist’ ?
    How do I understand ‘thinking’? What thinking is? When I think I can create my association, conclusion, I just experience. I have to start up my memory, I can reconstruct e.g. pictures, sounds. Can boy reconstruct pictures? I think he can. But can unborn baby reconstruct it? I don’t think so.

    Is thinking the same when child is thinking or grandma is thinking? When mentally handicapped man try to think and healthy man try to think… is the same?

    Do you understand me? I try to say that I don’t know what mean exist and think. So I can’t tell you how do we know that we exist.

    I have got a lot of questions. I’m lost.

    I have been thought about my comment .
    Should I add it? Doesn’t matter.

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  7. I've got question for you.

    Do you think that unborn children and maybe neonates have got subconsciousness?

    And one more question: do you think that unborn children exist?

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  8. Hmm..exist.I agree with my friend Emilka.We feel,doubt,think,empathise,repent.This examples ,no this facts are telling us that we exist. Sometimes we are sad but sometimes we are very happy:) As we all know life to equal to exist.All exist is various because Everybody,everything and our thoughts,approach will be change . For most people think exist to mean normal day in school or in work.I agree with them too but exist(in my opinion) includes ''normal day'' and all of this what we can touch,see...feel.


    Esti:)

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  9. I do not know that is good reflection ...but I wos trying.

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